“But CG”

Every road leads to what has been said in some email.


[JEREMY] We can understand the root cause of [CG] as a case of scientists constrained to attempt to do normal science in a post-normal situation.

[OUR BELOVED BISHOP] The messages, sent between some of the world’s most prominent climatologists revealed an extraordinary array of malpractice, with scientists manipulating data, breaching freedom of information laws and trying to crush dissenting views.

Objections and Replies

§1. Scientists are asshats!

Yes, scientists can be asshats. Do you have a point? Here would be mine: contrarians who insist that asshattitude is bad ought to go first.

§2. They hid the Decline!

Not really.

§3. Censorship!

You mean, peer-review.

§4. Data manipulation!

See #ButData, #ButFraud.


Perfect. Please send me your email and DM archives by tomorrow morning. thanks!

§6. The whistleblower […]

The Miracle Worker ceded the right to become a whistleblower. He set up a Bitcoin account during CGIII – the Return of the Miracle Worker, but somehow the whole ordeal lost a lot of steam.

§7. Read the emails!

I did. Which one do you have in mind? My favorite are the ones by MikeH. His “champion” theory would deserve due diligence. So email number or it does not exist.


{Acronym} CG stands for “Climategate.”

1. We need to distinguish appeals to CG simpliciter and armwaving using CG. If “but CG” is used to epilogue about data, then the concern should be filed under “but data.” There is no sharp line between the talking points, and I reserve the right to choose which goes where.

2. There is no need to fear this Bingo square anymore. Most details are mishandled by those who appeal to them.

3. Insist to have the source. (A number suffices.) Read the emails in full, right to the end, including the quotes. (Like this one.) Show that they say publicly what they said in emails. So far this always worked. Contrarians who are whining about the tenor of the CG emails don’t seem to realize that we can find worse daily between scientists on the Twitter. We’re social animals. Status competition is here to stay.

4. #ButCG and #ButMWP may not cohere, as a higher MWP lowers our climate sensitivity estimates.


2009-11. The CRU Hack in Context. Gavin’s.

2010-02. Q&A with Phil Jones. BBC.

2012-09. Pushing Back on Climate Hype. Keith’s.

2019-11. Climategate. Ken’s.